hybrids

Hello,
I just joined this group today so I'm sorry if this question has been asked a million times but I was wondering if anyone has breed two different types of quails to create a hybrid. For example a mexican speckle to a Japanese tuxedo.
Any info on hybrids would be interesting to hear.
Thanks!
Jill

Hey, does this help?
http://coturnixcorneruk.forumotion.com/daft-questions-f14/quail-cross-breeds-t1296.htm
It's a recent discussion

Mexican speckled is a kind of bobwhite, which is one of the "new world" quail, Japs are a different genus so not sure a hybrid would work. Hybrids created in the US all tend to be the same genus, although some websites claim to have produced a "bobbird" which is supposed to be a bob x jap - but there's no pics anywhere.

I spoke to a gamebird farmer on the phone today. He said that he is working with a woman who is crossing bob's and goldens. And further stated that all jumbo quail are bobwhite jap hybrids. Not sure if its true but he sounded quite sincere, and I clearly wasnt even interested in the jumbo's. Ed

Here is a photo of a Golden Speckled Coturnix.


I have a set of BW's and Coturnix together we will see what comes of that. I did notice some breeding today.

mark

The bird in Mark's picture is just a Golden Jap. Its sad what folk will advertise their birds as to try and generate more money from them. There is no sign of any BW in the bird at all, you would expect the offspring to show some BW characteristics (body, head or beak shape, colour or maybe even some difference to the feet)but everything in that picture screams nice looking coturnix hens.

The question of a possible coturnix x colinus hybrid was raised on the US forum 'ThatQuailPlace' none of the experienced breeder had heard of one, I've googled and read through the 'Handbook of Avian Hybrids of the world' and found no evidence of such a cross being recorded. I keep Japs & Bobwhites together (think Nino does too) and have never had a hybrid chick ..... and until I see one myself Just wont believe its possible

Suz

PS. Ed if it were me, I'd keep my hand in my pockets, stay away from that breeder as he seems to working on some sort of scam

Totally agree with Suz. Those look like plain ole Italian/gold Coturnix.

Also Mexican Speckled is a recessive Bobwhite colour mutation that vaguely resembles Italian/gold colour (but much nicer, the stiriations are very different). If you cross Mex Speckled with other strains of Bobwhites, you won't get Mexican Speckled mutation. You'll get a variation of wild colour form and washed out birds (I have some pure Mex Speckled and some crossed ones). So I don't think it's coincidental they chose to use Italian/gold. I also know people that keep them together (I do but my Bobs are still immature) without crossing.

Buyers beware!

Hi I've got 1 bob cock in with 6 different japs he jumps on ok, but then he's not sure what to do and falls off. lol Going to stick some eggs in inc soon a see what happens.

Could you put some makeup on the Japs to make them look like Bob females?

but ... I've never caught my bob's on the job but I know they must do it as i've hatched their chicks, although I did catch Mika (mini silkie) humping a poor bemused boy bob yesterday .... stupid chicken wish he spent more time with his girls and less on the Quail & rabbit ....he might be make interesting hybrids though lol.

Sorry Suz, but I can't take this topic too seriously. I know hybrids are theoretically possible with these 2 species, but that is more likely to happen in the labratory (via gene splicing). If it were likely to happen, it would have happened already. Think we have to be a bit realistic here.

now Bob x Bunnies, that's def more likely

the offtopic mannie was directed to myself, Andy Like it's said before I don't believe anyone has devloped a BW x Jap hybrid, i just wish folk would stop pretending they have or prove it if they have .... but not with pictures of what are clearly pure coturnix

he he... serves me right for speed reading I'm rubbish at multi-tasking... I'm working on a web site, watching my ducks don't get into trouble and on the forum.

Yeah, it's only a matter of time before Italian/gold will start to be called Speckled Italian or something like that. Actually come to think of it, I think I've seen a listing on UK eBay recently calling it something like that.

Well that put the Silkies amongest the rabbits. lol