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Post by jackboy on Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:26 pm

Are gambel, californian and mountain quail hardy birds againsts the elements? how loud do they call? and what are their dietry requirements?

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Re: ornementals

Post by Nils on Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:22 am

HI Jack,

I dont know much about these ornamental quails however I found this site that could possibly give you more insight to them.

http://www.birdforum.net/opus/Callipepla_gambelii

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Post by Nils on Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:26 am

Hey Jack,

Just found a better link to that website....

http://www.birdforum.net/opus/Quail
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Post by internet_nobody on Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:50 am

Mountain are very, very expensive, and impossible to get hold of in the UK. Think Nino said imported pairs would be around 400.

They're hardy as long as kept dry (e.g in an aviary with roof and a couple of side bits).
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Post by jackboy on Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:27 pm

what about the others?

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Post by internet_nobody on Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:10 pm

Oh sorry I meant they're all OK as long as they can't get damp! The first line was just to point out you're not gonna get your hands on mountains Wink
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Post by jackboy on Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:28 pm

what about noise and dietry requirements?

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Post by jackboy on Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:22 pm

400 is that what nino imported his for?
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Post by spicebird on Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:23 am

Hi,
you can get mountain quail in this country about 120 a pair. I have two pairs but they haven't laid any eggs this year. Possibly because the hens are last years babies but they should've laid this year! I also know two other people in this country that keep them.

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Post by Suz on Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:09 am

Hi Spicebird
Can you let me know the breeder of your mountain quail contact details please Smile
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Post by jackboy on Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:54 pm

could someoen answer my questions please?
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Post by andoy on Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:00 pm

hi Jackboy,

I don't keep any of the ornamental quails, but I have seen them at Nino's place (Welwyn Quails). They are not noisy and make some soft chirping noises. I would say quieter than coturnix. Not sure about their dietry requirements. I would think feeding with high protein game food (as per bobwhites), supplemented with bugs (mealworms etc) and seeds.

I think Nino imports lots of eggs (unfortunately lot gets damaged in transit). It wouldn't surprise me if it cost 400 or more to import a pair of adults from the states. New unrelated blood lines are valuable to breeders.
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Post by internet_nobody on Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:49 pm

Nino normally imports eggs, but I believe he is negotiating the import of breeding pairs - and the I think he said 400 was the sale price, not the cost including import Surprised
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Post by jackboy on Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:11 am

How do you import eggs? I was told it all banned etc. just an unmarked package? but that is risky as there is a 5k fine!
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Post by internet_nobody on Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:33 am

You need an import certificate from DEFRA, the flock need a veterinary certificate, and then its expensive still and due to time taken hatchability is low.
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Post by dave. on Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:38 am

Hi Jack they call louder than japs but it sounds nicer, they are nick named killer quail. I've had some rip the brains out of a pheasant & each other at breeding time so beware if thinking of keeping them. Twisted Evil
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Post by jackboy on Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:00 pm

which breed is that dave?
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Post by dave. on Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:02 pm

Hi jack their cali's some people call them mountain.
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Post by Nils on Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:06 pm

HUH
I thought mountains and cali's are different birds....
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Post by internet_nobody on Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:37 pm

They are, totally different.
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Post by Suz on Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:08 am

They are different, but Californian Valley Quail are referred to as Killer valley's due to their aggression during breeding season ... I don't know if this applies Gambel's too though.

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Post by jackboy on Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:45 pm

are gambel loud? and what do they eat?
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Post by jackboy on Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:30 pm

jackboy wrote:are gambel loud? and what do they eat?

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Post by internet_nobody on Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:53 pm

They eat quail food Razz

They're not particularly loud, but seem to have a fairly constant low level chatter.
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