C. coturnix and C. japonica

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C. coturnix and C. japonica

Post by Jen88 on Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:30 pm

Hi,
This is propably a silly question but...
I was just looking around on google at pictures of Coturnix coturnix (the European common quail) and Coturnix japonica (Japs) and I was wondering is there actually any difference in the appearance of these two species?
If there isn't how do we know that our birds are infact japs and not European ones that were caught years ago...Shocked ?
I guess it wouldn't really make much difference but I was just curious Laughing

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Post by andoy on Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:39 pm

They are subspecies and can interbreed. I suspect that what we have in captivity are a mix of the European, Eurasian and Japanese populations.

You can probably notice some slight morphological differences in wild caught birds Rolling Eyes

Most web sites tend to use stock images of captive birds.
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Post by Jen88 on Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:40 am

Thanks Andy,
I've been reading more and you are right they do breed fine in captivity but not in the wild... I'm guessing because they live in different areas mostly?
Well mine are still the cutest little things!
One of them laid their first white egg yesterday, I was so proud of it as it was such a pure white but my housemate broke it Crying or Very sad and they have all been normal coloured since.
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Post by andoy on Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:07 am

Like any species that is fairly widely distributed (e.g. black bears have 16 subspecies, including the Kermode "ghost" bear and Cinnamon bear), breeding groups become isolated and regional differences appear in these population and can eventually evolve into a different species (Speciation).

I'm not sure what the migratory paths are for Coturnix, but I'm guessing the European and Eurasian populations can meet up in Africa in winter, while Japanese and Eurasian populations meet up in central Asia? (Himalayas are quite a barrier) Rolling Eyes It's hard to imagine Coturnix travelling great distances though. They aren't terribly good flyers.
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Post by Jen88 on Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:40 pm

Yeh we learn about that kinda stuff in on my course...well we are meant to lol
To be honest, I find it hard to imagine Japs in the wild at all, yesterday Rose got a piece of hay stuck to her chest and freaked out until I finally came and released her Rolling Eyes don't know what she would have done otherwise lol.
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Post by andoy on Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:47 pm

I know what you mean, mine are really dumb. I wonder if wild birds have more smarts. Either that or they breed like rabbits! Razz
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