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Post by Suz Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:39 pm

Goldie (cos she was in the house already )

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Post by andoy Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:10 am

Suz is that the fawn colour?
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Post by Suz Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:18 am

don't think so Andoy, both her parents are golden. They've produced 5 this colour the rest have been normal gold with dark speckles & flecking.
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Post by sally Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:29 am

Shes lovely Suz Very Happy

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Post by andoy Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:53 am

how many chicks in total from the same parents? ...was it about 5 from a batch of about 20? ...other 15 or so were gold?
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Post by Suz Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:50 am

oh I couldn't tell you, as they were hatched at different times Andoy. And when I say same parents, what I meant was parent group of 2 Jumbo Gold males with 5 jumbo gold girls. The group produced golds, whites with gold spots & the light golds, before adding them into a mixed colour pen.
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Post by Ironsun Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:16 am

Hi Suz,

Yes I've seen this type before, I call it a "red golden" just to indentify it from other, not sure how they breed either.

The three chicks I got now have light brown spots insead of the normal black spots very different between the two colourwise, so it'll going to be intresting to see what they turn out as adults.

I'll have to get a better camera, that cheap one from asda, it's worse than a home made pin hole camera,lol.

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Post by andoy Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:30 pm

I'd suggest it's a recessive trait. Possibly sex linked if you only have hens of this colour from standard golden colour parents.

You could always experiment to find out.

Try breeding them with normals and standard golds (keep the chicks separate from the 2 groups at hatch to see if there is any difference). I suspect you won't get any "red golden" from either group (just normal and standard gold). However the 2nd generation chicks will all be carriers (if it's recessive) and all males will be carriers (if it's sex linked).
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Post by riverside-quails Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:01 pm

thats a lovely coloured bird you have there suz amazing
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Post by dave. Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:12 pm

hi, thought I should put my pennysworth.I have a(light) gold cock, no brown at all,face markings are white instead of brown.paired with gold hen. 11 eggs set 11 hatched, 3(light) gold cocks,3 fawn cocks, 5 fawn hens. only kept 1(light) cock, 1 fawn cock & 1 fawn hen & mum & dad. All crossed with normals & golds. Should no more after sunday when they should be here. Will post pics when I know how. Dave.
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Post by andoy Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:15 am

That's interesting Dave. So that would suggest the colour is derived from combining Gold and Fawn. It also rules out sex linkage on the X-chromosome. Has anyone seen any hens in this colour?

Interesting that you didn't get any standard Gold or Normal colour offspring and 3/4 Fawn. That would suggest that your cock and hen/s have Fawn in their genetic makeup. I wonder if (light)Gold or "red Gold" only expresses when a bird is homozygote (carries 2 copies) of Fawn and/or Gold.

The results of the cross with normals would be very interesting if you can identify which parent produced which chick.
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