Coturnix Corner UK
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

+9
Harrie
2steps
camaroneil
Animals4life
andoy
Nils
Ironsun
internet_nobody
arsenalno9
13 posters

Page 1 of 2 1, 2  Next

Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by arsenalno9 Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:45 pm

Hello,

Looking for opinion on the best way to murder my quail for eating.

One way i found somewhere on the net was to hold them upside down and snip their heads off with sharp scissors. Twisted Evil

Well call me a girl but i can't do that! No

I lkie the idea of gassing! Evil or Very Mad but does that affect the meat?

What other ways do you suggest?????
arsenalno9
arsenalno9
Chinese Painted Quail
Chinese Painted Quail

Male
Number of posts : 58
Age : 58
Location : Ashford Kent
My eBay : arsenalno9
Registration date : 2008-01-14

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by internet_nobody Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:53 pm

I think if you used a CO2 chamber the meat would be fine.

I think the best way is like a chicken, break the neck, its quick and the animal is rendered unconcious straight away. However, i'm too much of a wimp after Harrie told me about pulling a head off by mistake, so I cut the head off with a big knife.

Scissors sounds like a really bad idea, since you have to put a fair bit of force onto the knife to go through the neck in one swoop I really don't think you could do it cleanly with one snip (except with proper dispatching shears).
internet_nobody
internet_nobody
Northern Bobwhite
Northern Bobwhite

Female
Number of posts : 915
Age : 39
Location : Coventry
My eBay : internet_nobody
Species Kept : Japanese and Bobwhite
Registration date : 2007-09-26

http://www.emmap.com

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by Ironsun Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:08 pm

Hi,

They use Co2 Gas to cull adult breeding turkeys are they are so big to go the other way.

Scissors??? What a way to go, I bet there must be loads of blood just flying around the kitchen.

Cull the same way as chickens are, by "wringing" their necks, it's clean, it's fast the birds are dead straight away.Don't pull to hard, as Harrie found out, their heads end up in your right hand, and blood squirting all over the place.

Leave the birds to hang for a few minutes (heads down) to Stop flapping about, then dip in warm water (125°F) for 15 seconds lift out and rub the feathers off. The heat of the water melts the surrounding fat and the feathers come out quickly, leaving you a clean bird with no ripped skin. Gut straight away, leave to cool, and either put them in the fridge for tomorrow or freezer for a later date.

Derek.
Ironsun
Ironsun
Northern Bobwhite
Northern Bobwhite

Male
Number of posts : 725
Location : South Lakeland, Cumbria
My eBay : etoshastud
Registration date : 2007-07-26

http://www.quail-run.bravehost.com/

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by internet_nobody Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:10 pm

I actually found out with the clean cut you don't get blood shooting out, I did it over the sink so I could quickly point the neck down the drain and blood just gently drips out with the muscle spasms.
internet_nobody
internet_nobody
Northern Bobwhite
Northern Bobwhite

Female
Number of posts : 915
Age : 39
Location : Coventry
My eBay : internet_nobody
Species Kept : Japanese and Bobwhite
Registration date : 2007-09-26

http://www.emmap.com

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by Nils Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:30 pm

I remember as a child in SA , my dad used to go pigeon shooting with his friends and then they would just break off a wing and pull the skin back. YYUUCCCKKKKK

I would never be able to do that. Im just too squemish so I doubt whether I would be able to wring them even.

Will call Dad me thinks. Laughing


Nils
Nils
Japanese Quail
Japanese Quail

Female
Number of posts : 128
Location : Hampshire
My eBay : nilsuk
Registration date : 2008-07-03

http://www.freewebs.com/nilsuk

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by andoy Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:57 pm

you think that is grotesque, I've seen a guy teaching a survival course bite the head off a chicken affraid
Quick and effective, but not recommended!


Last edited by andoy on Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:59 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : I can't spell)
andoy
andoy
Northern Bobwhite
Northern Bobwhite

Male
Number of posts : 916
Age : 56
Location : Harrow, NW London
My eBay : andoyolg
Species Kept : Japanese and Bobwhite
Registration date : 2008-03-13

http://andoy.co.uk

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by Animals4life Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:41 pm

andoy wrote:you think that is grotesque, I've seen a guy teaching a survival course bite the head off a chicken affraid
Quick and effective, but not recommended!

Why that must be the best part of a survival course! lol Wink
They sometimes use Co2 to kill mass-bred factory birds instead of having to kill 1000+ one at a time
ETA: Despite claims of being "cheap, easy and *humane*" research has found that it is, in fact, not humane. The hearts/lung work to get rid of the Co2 by exhaling them from the body, when Co2 is put into the body the repiratory system have to work harder to get rid of it, as they are not breathing oxygen and are inhaling the Co2 it causes them to exhale faster to get rid of it, slowly suffocating. So, actually it isnt very humane, it would be more humane breaking the neck or cutting the head off then using Co2. - Just thought I would add that.


Last edited by Animals4life on Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:55 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Error 5 times (wrote it up 5 times))

Animals4life
Cheeping Chick
Cheeping Chick

Female
Number of posts : 20
Location : Cannock
Registration date : 2008-07-07

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by camaroneil Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:39 pm

i read somewhere to use anvil type pruners,

as for gutting, can someone elaborate please,

camaroneil
Cheeping Chick
Cheeping Chick

Male
Number of posts : 22
Location : Washington, England
Registration date : 2007-09-05

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by internet_nobody Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:56 pm

To gut, I just poke a finger inside, swirl a bit to loosen stuff then pull it out, takes 3/4 goes to get rid of everything, then wash through.
internet_nobody
internet_nobody
Northern Bobwhite
Northern Bobwhite

Female
Number of posts : 915
Age : 39
Location : Coventry
My eBay : internet_nobody
Species Kept : Japanese and Bobwhite
Registration date : 2007-09-26

http://www.emmap.com

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by camaroneil Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:59 pm

yak,

camaroneil
Cheeping Chick
Cheeping Chick

Male
Number of posts : 22
Location : Washington, England
Registration date : 2007-09-05

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by Animals4life Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:09 pm

Forgot to add aswell, when you cut/break the necks try not to cut the crop!
For gutting I just cut carefully down the bellys and pull everything out (again trying not to cut through any guts)

Animals4life
Cheeping Chick
Cheeping Chick

Female
Number of posts : 20
Location : Cannock
Registration date : 2008-07-07

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by 2steps Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:18 pm

If you were going to cut of the breast and legs to cook rather than cook the bird whole would it be ok to not bother gutting it at all? would that only be ok if the bird was too be used striaght away. just an idea for anyone who finds it too gross to do

2steps
Cheeping Chick
Cheeping Chick

Female
Number of posts : 42
Age : 44
Location : Lincolnshire
My eBay : 2steps1
Registration date : 2008-02-08

http://www.phoenixstarandmoon.com

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by Harrie Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:20 pm

I have taken breasts & legs off to cook but it seems a bit of a waste as the meat is good all over really. They'd be fine in the fridge for a few day or so.
Harrie
Harrie
Californian Quail

Female
Number of posts : 1009
Location : Nr Bath
Registration date : 2007-08-22

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by arsenalno9 Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:10 pm

I was trying to get away from the "hands on" bit Shocked

These are Quail i raised from the egg! Said welcome to the world when they were born, slaved day and night to provide for em.....worked my fingers to the b.........

Can i not just go on holiday and come back when my freezer is loaded with oven ready quail!!!!!!!

I did the head/neck pull and twist thing with a pigeon i had winged when shooting, but pulled too hard and the head came off in my hand!!!

I was on me own and i remember saying "sorry" to the decapitated bird!
arsenalno9
arsenalno9
Chinese Painted Quail
Chinese Painted Quail

Male
Number of posts : 58
Age : 58
Location : Ashford Kent
My eBay : arsenalno9
Registration date : 2008-01-14

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by Harrie Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:42 pm

OH always apologizes to anything he has to cull before the deed. Bless.
Harrie
Harrie
Californian Quail

Female
Number of posts : 1009
Location : Nr Bath
Registration date : 2007-08-22

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by andoy Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:58 pm

Harrie wrote:OH always apologizes to anything he has to cull before the deed. Bless.

Sounds fair enough. I'd worry if he was smiling, laughing or singing Cliff Richard songs while doing the deed. Razz

Don't think there is an easy way of doing it. A life is a life, just make sure they don't die in vain Sad
andoy
andoy
Northern Bobwhite
Northern Bobwhite

Male
Number of posts : 916
Age : 56
Location : Harrow, NW London
My eBay : andoyolg
Species Kept : Japanese and Bobwhite
Registration date : 2008-03-13

http://andoy.co.uk

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by Oneounce2many Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:41 am

This is off topic but did you know when you put something in a microwave you kill all the cells in that food, Making it more acidic like candy and un-nutritious. Think of Radiation Therapy to kill cancer cells. Your doing basically the same thing by heating things in the microwave.
Oneounce2many
Oneounce2many
Japanese Quail
Japanese Quail

Male
Number of posts : 118
Age : 30
Location : Cary, North Carolina
Registration date : 2008-05-29

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by arsenalno9 Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:54 am

Now i hope nobody is thinking what i am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Twisted Evil

naaaaa Would make too much mees and the Missis would have a fit affraid
arsenalno9
arsenalno9
Chinese Painted Quail
Chinese Painted Quail

Male
Number of posts : 58
Age : 58
Location : Ashford Kent
My eBay : arsenalno9
Registration date : 2008-01-14

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by Oneounce2many Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:55 am

You could just not kill it.
Oneounce2many
Oneounce2many
Japanese Quail
Japanese Quail

Male
Number of posts : 118
Age : 30
Location : Cary, North Carolina
Registration date : 2008-05-29

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by andoy Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:33 am

I know you guys are just jesting, but just in case anyone is thinking of it. A microwave is a horrible way to kill something. It's like boiling it alive. Several people have been prosecuted for killing animals this way. The animals were said to scream and struggle for some time in torment before they died affraid
andoy
andoy
Northern Bobwhite
Northern Bobwhite

Male
Number of posts : 916
Age : 56
Location : Harrow, NW London
My eBay : andoyolg
Species Kept : Japanese and Bobwhite
Registration date : 2008-03-13

http://andoy.co.uk

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by Oneounce2many Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:14 am

I hope you don't do that man.. That would be terrible.
Oneounce2many
Oneounce2many
Japanese Quail
Japanese Quail

Male
Number of posts : 118
Age : 30
Location : Cary, North Carolina
Registration date : 2008-05-29

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by Oneounce2many Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:14 am

THats like putting a child that you've raised in an oven.
Oneounce2many
Oneounce2many
Japanese Quail
Japanese Quail

Male
Number of posts : 118
Age : 30
Location : Cary, North Carolina
Registration date : 2008-05-29

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by internet_nobody Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:35 pm

Oneounce2many wrote:This is off topic but did you know when you put something in a microwave you kill all the cells in that food, Making it more acidic like candy and un-nutritious. Think of Radiation Therapy to kill cancer cells. Your doing basically the same thing by heating things in the microwave.

I'm not gonna even start on quite how wrong you are there.
internet_nobody
internet_nobody
Northern Bobwhite
Northern Bobwhite

Female
Number of posts : 915
Age : 39
Location : Coventry
My eBay : internet_nobody
Species Kept : Japanese and Bobwhite
Registration date : 2007-09-26

http://www.emmap.com

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by Harrie Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:19 pm

I just took it that Oneounce2many meant that cooking in a microwave is a bad idea from a nutrition point of view. Sure you don't mean to nuke live quail Ounce do you? Shocked
Harrie
Harrie
Californian Quail

Female
Number of posts : 1009
Location : Nr Bath
Registration date : 2007-08-22

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by internet_nobody Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:36 pm

Harrie wrote:I just took it that Oneounce2many meant that cooking in a microwave is a bad idea from a nutrition point of view. Sure you don't mean to nuke live quail Ounce do you? Shocked
Yeah, I understood the implication of the post was about nutritional value, not bird killing, but there were so many daft inaccuracies Razz

In fact, as the post was so off topic (something we do not encourage), i'll address the inaccuracies in the hope that future incorrect asides don't happen:

This is off topic but did you know when you put something in a microwave you kill all the cells in that food, Making it more acidic like candy and un-nutritious. Think of Radiation Therapy to kill cancer cells. Your doing basically the same thing by heating things in the microwave.

Food cells are already dead. You take a chicken breast out of a chicken, the cells are dead. You can't kill a dead cell.

Microwaves emit EM waves - the same as light just a shorter wavelength. Microwaves work by making water (and fat) molecules vibrate, give something energy and it turns into heat - that's how things cook. Some cells lyse (burst open) some don't, this doesn't make them "more acidic", nor does it make the food less nutritious per se. Some vitamins/flavanoids etc are lost as a lot of steam is given off during microwaving, but in something like meat it makes no difference. You're much better off eating some microwaved peas than a boiled sweet.

Radiotherapy uses ionizing radiation (think radioactivity, not lightbulbs!) to kill cells, which is why there tend to be nasty side-effects. Radioactivity messes up the DNA in a cell (which is why radiation sickness is so deadly), wrong DNA = wrong protein = cell death because it just "stops working".

But who cares about that - my actual message is please stay on topic. We don't want a strict forum where every little aside warrants a telling off, but if you're going to go off-tack at least go off on a tangent that was in some way linked to the topic. Thank you!


Last edited by internet_nobody on Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:21 pm; edited 1 time in total
internet_nobody
internet_nobody
Northern Bobwhite
Northern Bobwhite

Female
Number of posts : 915
Age : 39
Location : Coventry
My eBay : internet_nobody
Species Kept : Japanese and Bobwhite
Registration date : 2007-09-26

http://www.emmap.com

Back to top Go down

Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail) Empty Re: Best Way to Dispatch Adult (eating Quail)

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 1 of 2 1, 2  Next

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum